Need some match up help

[Denthegod]

I just picked up this game for the switch and it is a lot of fun. I started with Setsuki and while she is fun I slowly started to gravitate towards Lum and DeGrey. With Satsuki I don’t feel like I have a hard time against any of the characters. Please don’t misunderstand. I’m not saying I never lose. I’m just saying when I do lose with her I never feel like it was a cheap loss. I always feel the loss was fair and square.

With DeGrey, my matches with most characters are usually fine. Again, I don’t win most of my matches but when I lose it never feels cheap unless I am fighting Jaina. A lot of times my opponent will jump and fire the bow then land and fire it again pretty much filling the screen with projectiles. Is there a strategy you guys use to beat her consistently with DeGrey if she is trying to zone you? I also need help with the DeGrey and Satsuki match up. Satsuki is not nearly as bad as Jaina but I don’t really have a game plan when I play against her. Sometimes she just overwhelms me with speed.

My next question is the Lum and Satsuki match up. Again, like when I use DeGrey I get overwhelmed by her speed. Is there any way to counteract her with Lum to just slow her down even a little?

Any tips will help and is greatly appreciated. I hope I am posting this in the right place. If not please direct me to where I should be asking this. Thanks!

Edit: I also need help on the Geiger match up for both of them. I’m always gettin trapped with the gear throw and flash kick strategy.

[Ralphile]

Welcome to the forums @Denthegod! Some match-ups can certainly seem lopsided at first, but I’m sure things will even out as you get more familiar with the characters (they have for me).

@Sente has been posting some great in-depth thoughts about the different characters. Below are links to the topics on DGrey and Lum - hopefully they’ll be of some help to you for some of the trickier match-ups.

DeGrey

Random DeGrey Thoughts

As I’m exploring DeGrey, here are random thoughts that have come to me. In no way am I saying that these are high-level play notes. I am not the DeGrey authority. Without further ado: Random DeGrey Thoughts: General: Only use bA once a year (Credit: Aphotix). It’s a callout move. A blocked bA completely kills your momentum. Heavily prefer ground ghost over air ghost. You can cover more ground walking behind the ghost this way. Air super is better than ground super in most matchups (Credit: …

Lum

Random Lum Thoughts

As I’m exploring Lum, here are random thoughts that have come to me. In no way am I saying that these are high-level play notes. I am not the Lum authority. Please feel free to add on any info that you think will be worthwhile that I have missed. Without further ado: Random Lum Thoughts: General: Use C as much as you can. Protect your mini-Lums. You can also use them as bait if the opponent is trying very hard to get rid of them by approaching with jA. When cloud, bomb, or fireworks come out…

[Lurtz]

I am not very good, so I may not be well equiped to give advice, but I consider DeGrey my best character exactly because I feel like I dont have bad matchup with him.

Few tips against Jaina:

• general tip against zoner is that you can “simply” walk in using ghost to tank projectiles. Ghost is also lvl2 so it can tank jC and gB at once.
• try to save air supper to crush her jB and jC to make her afraid to jump attack you.
• you can counter her jB and jC with well timed/spaced gBB and gBC
• once you are in try to use pressure to bait her gC and burn her own health.

[Denthegod]

Thank you guys for replying. Looks like there is a lot I still need to learn in the game.

@Lurtz these few tips you gave me helped a lot. I’m not winning against Jaina all the time but I am figuring out how to better approach her with your advice. It’s just a matter of me figuring out the properties of all my tools and when to use said tools. I gotta tell you she’s beaten so much I get scared every time the other guy picks her. Thanks to your post I am more confident now and I approach the match as a challenge rather than something scary I have to get through. Ok so that was a little dramatic but I hope you understand what I mean.

After playing Lum and DeGrey a lot more I do feel like I have a little more connection with Lum’s playstyle than DeGrey’s but they are both really fun characters. I do plan on switching around a lot and go through all of the characters as that is how I approach fighting games but I think the next guy I’m gonna put some time into is Argagarg. I have a weird habit of using the oddball characters first.

Thank you guys again for all your help. I’m sure I’ll be back with more questions as I learn the game more.